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  Breaking News: Big Trouble with the Watchtower

  by Bethelite Elder in

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  a couple of weeks ago, an ex-bethelite(10 years) by the name of mel smith was disfellowshipped.

  i understand that he still lives in ny are and has a mortgage company.

  evidently, he was hurt while serving at the farm and watchtower did some horrible things to him.

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  Elders are given the option to send a certified letter inviting a suspected publisher to a JC in the "Flock" book.

  All right, ATJ, but is this provision still running ? There was a time when the WTS was not so concerned with court cases, so they would readily be formal, although one could rightly have found this taste for procedure stupid , as what was at stake were private, not official matters.

  Nowadays, I will be very surprised if the WTS hasn't discreetly added beside its Flock book some directions to elders to the effect that they leave into the hands of potential suers as little written material as possible. That is most likely the reason why, around me, summoning to JCs has always been done during visits or even on the phone.

  Apart from that, I've had my fair share of ignorant and narrow minded elders, but none of them, over 30 years, has ever been stupid and cunning enough to send a blank sheet for a JC.
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  Breaking News: Big Trouble with the Watchtower

  by Bethelite Elder in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  a couple of weeks ago, an ex-bethelite(10 years) by the name of mel smith was disfellowshipped.

  i understand that he still lives in ny are and has a mortgage company.

  evidently, he was hurt while serving at the farm and watchtower did some horrible things to him.

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  Sorry, Daniel-p, I just can't believe that an elder, PO at that, can summon to a JC with a certified letter. Even if it were so, I can't see a PO insert a blank sheet in the envelope, because :

  - he will have to report to his hierarchy about his handling of the JC .

  - whatever one may say, he has a conscience.

  You are free to believe it, I am free not to, according to what BE writes, I don't have to know him personally for that.

  Besides, as I posted earlier, BE has hardly delivered on this site the insider knowledge that one would expect from a bethelite elder. All that he has written could have previously been gleaned on this site or on others, I find that his posts are just regurgitation. Can't help, not meaning to be provocative or insulting.
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  I made it!!!

  by purplesofa in

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  to fifty!!.

  never dreamed life would be as it is now, .

  there are times i did not think i would make it.

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  If life is great, birthday the greater , Purps.
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  Breaking News: Big Trouble with the Watchtower

  by Bethelite Elder in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  a couple of weeks ago, an ex-bethelite(10 years) by the name of mel smith was disfellowshipped.

  i understand that he still lives in ny are and has a mortgage company.

  evidently, he was hurt while serving at the farm and watchtower did some horrible things to him.

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  aligot ripounsous

  The chairman/ PO sent him a certified letter with a blank sheet of paper inside; to supposedly invite him to a Judicial Committee.

  Bethelite Elder,

  IMO, this simple phrase reveals your ignorance of how this organization works. Summoning someone to a JC is informal, and certainly not by means of a certified letter. It dismisses you as a credible poster, let alone a bethelite elder.
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  I'm Still Torn About the Blood Issue

  by palmtree67 in

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  2. beliefs

  when i left the org.

  the blood issue wasn't an issue for me.

  my best friend was on the blood committee for years and i could see many cases where either blood wouldn't have saved the person anyways (like when a person is in a serious car accident and their liver is in pieces), or blood actually killed the person and/or hindered recovery.. then my little nephew got leukemia.

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  I have mixed feelings about blood transfusions. Although I'm not attending meetings anymore, I feel that God's command has, somehow, saved quite many JW lifes, if only when people would, 30 years ago, get HIV infected blood and JWs were protected by their religious stand. Also, and this is not religious, blood trade is scandalous, since the raw product is procured for free from well intentioned people or bought cheap from the poor, and sold at high price, even when the sellers know full well that it is infected. A political scandal ravaged France about 20 years ago for this reason.

  Now, one has to admit that the current stand of the WTS on this subject, that is accepting fractions, has little to do with religious integrity and more with legal, and therefore financial, interests.

  In conclusion, I don't know.
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  The Boy Who Harnessed the Wind

  by megs in

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  this is a wonderful story:.

  http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/africa/8257153.stm .

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  Amazing kid, hope he will find his way up, for his own benefit and his community's.
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  How Much Do WE Know About Africa

  by snowbird in

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  i realize that i run the risk of running this genre into the ground, but please indulge me this time.

  what is the former name of these african countries?.

  benin - .

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  aligot ripounsous

  C'mon, all of you Britons, how were those countries known as :

  Zambia

  Lesotho

  Malawi

  and cherry on the cake : République Centrafricaine ?
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  MY BROTHER-IN-LAW HAS DIED

  by Mary in

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  2. friends

  this is one post i had always hoped i would never have to do, but after a long and brave battle, my beloved brother in law has died.

  i have done a couple of threads on this in the past, so many of you know the battles he was facing.

  he had been diagnosed earlier this year with myelodysplastic syndrome and the mortality rate of this disease is quite high.

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  Mary,

  you talk so lovingly about your brother in law, he must have been a good person indeed. His life hasn't been wasted since his relatives and friends keep such a fond memory of him. Sincere condolences to you and your family.
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  Consolation on Demand

  by chasson in

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  2. bible

  i have a lot of consolation magazines that i could scan.. if you want a particular issue for research, tell me and i will scan it, and you can tell to the board more what are your research, so everybody will have more insight.. .

  here is one of this magazine concerning the madison square garden incident.

  this incident is connected with the olyn moyle's trial and it is interessant to see the vision of rutherford concerning this.. he tried in this magazine to excuse the usher, because what he said on stage was "the word of jehovah", so nobody must stop the "spreading of the word of god".

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  aligot ripounsous

  Thanks, Charles, makes us see even more clearly that the WTS hasn't always been as separate from the world as they now claim to be.

  I wonder, downloading your files takes an awful lot of time, can't you make them less heavy when scanning your documents ?
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  How Much Do WE Know About Africa

  by snowbird in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i realize that i run the risk of running this genre into the ground, but please indulge me this time.

  what is the former name of these african countries?.

  benin - .

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  aligot ripounsous

  Don't mention it, I keep the tulip.